{"id":4648,"date":"2012-01-16T09:48:23","date_gmt":"2012-01-15T22:48:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michaelwyres.com\/?p=4648"},"modified":"2012-01-16T09:48:23","modified_gmt":"2012-01-15T22:48:23","slug":"rf-interference-from-hfc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/2012\/01\/rf-interference-from-hfc\/","title":{"rendered":"RF Interference From HFC"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ll start off by saying I am by no means an RF engineer, so I may be completely wrong about what I am about to write about.  I am however, quite confident in my empirical observations over time.<\/p>\n<p>I got into an interesting conversation about RF interference generated by <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hybrid_fibre-coaxial\">HFC<\/a> systems &#8211; (often touted as an &#8220;alternative&#8221; to the NBN) &#8211; with <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/#!\/garystark\">Gary Stark<\/a> and <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/#!\/danwarne\">Dan Warne<\/a> on Twitter on Friday afternoon.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Gary raised the issue of signal leakage from HFC systems that interfere with terrestrial RF broadcasts &#8211; (such as radio, television, emergency communications, etc) &#8211; and the discussion led to the thoughts that any proliferation in the use of HFC for internet delivery &#8211; (as espoused by some) &#8211; would increase the problem, and possibly create others.<\/p>\n<p>Gary highlighted the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bondi,_New_South_Wales\">Bondi<\/a> area of <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sydney\">Sydney<\/a> as being particularly RF congested.  There are many competing frequencies in the area, that interference is a common occurrence. <\/p>\n<p>This reminded me of my own observations around <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Geelong\">Geelong<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>For example, have a listen to the interference caused to a terrestrial radio transmission as I drive past the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.transact.com.au\/\">TransACT<\/a> headquarters &#8211; this was recorded on Friday afternoon:<\/p>\n<p><center>\n<table border=\"1\" width=\"450\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\">\n  <tr>\n    <td align=\"center\" width=\"450\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"450\" height=\"290\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/P-Jmwk68C3A\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/td>\n  <\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/center>\n<\/p>\n<p>Now &#8211; (and note I said earlier, I am no RF engineer, so I could quite easily have this ass-about, but stick with me for a bit) &#8211; that doesn&#8217;t seem good, does it?<\/p>\n<p>Some people I am sure will say, &#8220;oh look, there is a radio tower and a mobile phone tower there too&#8221;.  Well, those towers were in place before the HFC network was, and this interference did not occur in this location before the cable network went up.<\/p>\n<p>I can also vouch for the fact that having worked in Geelong in a role that would see me drive all over the city at all times, similar interference occurs all over Geelong, <i>particularly<\/i> near splitters and boosters in this particular HFC network.<\/p>\n<p>The Melbourne\/Geelong, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ballarat\">Ballarat<\/a>, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bendigo\">Bendigo<\/a>, and West Gippsland broadcast areas &#8211; (for both radio and television) &#8211; have a considerable history of interfering with each other, and over the years there has been much juggling of spectrum.<\/p>\n<p>So congested is the spectrum, that the advent of digital television created many headaches.<\/p>\n<p>Metropolitan digital services for the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Seven_Network\">Seven Network<\/a> are broadcast on VHF channel 6, the same frequencies that were used for <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nine_Network\">Nine Network<\/a>-affiliated <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/WIN_Television\">WIN Television<\/a> from Ballarat since 1963 &#8211; which was moved to UHF channel 36.<\/p>\n<p>Metropolitan Nine Network digital services are transmitted on VHF channel 8, conflicting with the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Network_Ten\">Network Ten<\/a>-affiliated signals originated by <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Southern_Cross_Ten\">Southern Cross Ten<\/a> from Bendigo and Gippsland.  Similarly, metro Network Ten digital signals are broadcast on VHF channel 11, previously used by the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Australian_Broadcasting_Corporation\">ABC<\/a> in Ballarat.<\/p>\n<p>Melbourne&#8217;s <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.3aw.com.au\/\">3AW<\/a> and its sister station <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.magic1278.com.au\/\">Magic1278<\/a> actually swapped frequencies some years ago to alleviate as much interference as possible from its 3AW signal &#8211; which moved from 1278AM to 693AM.<\/p>\n<p>The ABC are trying to launch a local radio station in Geelong, but haven&#8217;t been able to find a suitable frequency so far, with the process now about five years old.  A new <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/newsradio\/\">ABC NewsRadio<\/a> frequency in Ballarat and a community FM licence in Melbourne&#8217;s outer east regularly interfere with each other.<\/p>\n<p>The ultimate point to make is that the RF spectrum is incredibly congested, in many areas.  Not just Melbourne or Geelong or Bondi.  It is a real headache for authorities in allocating frequencies for new services all over the country.<\/p>\n<p>Locking the existing HFC networks into use for any &#8220;NBN-like&#8221; network does nothing to solve this problem.  Putting more people on them may actually <i>increase<\/i> the problem.<\/p>\n<p>HFC is also an analogue technology, not digital.  It will also likely <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/michaelwyres.com\/2011\/11\/opposition-nbn-plan-to-cost-more\/\">actually cost us more<\/a> than switching to a primarily fibre-based network from the beginning.<\/p>\n<p>HFC is still not the answer.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ll start off by saying I am by no means an RF engineer, so I may be completely wrong about what I am about to write about. I am however, quite confident in my empirical observations over time. I got into an interesting conversation about RF interference generated by HFC systems &#8211; (often touted as [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[270,291,368],"class_list":["post-4648","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-hfc","tag-interference","tag-nbn"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4648","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4648"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4648\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4648"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4648"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4648"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}