{"id":5997,"date":"2012-07-24T11:34:42","date_gmt":"2012-07-24T01:34:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michaelwyres.com\/?p=5997"},"modified":"2012-07-24T11:34:42","modified_gmt":"2012-07-24T01:34:42","slug":"why-wont-you-answer-the-question-malcolm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/2012\/07\/why-wont-you-answer-the-question-malcolm\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Won&#8217;t You Answer The Question Malcolm?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the midst of an online Twitter &#8220;discussion&#8221; yesterday between <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.malcolmturnbull.com.au\/\">Malcolm Turnbull<\/a>, the ABC&#8217;s <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.twitter.com\/ABCtech\">Nick Ross<\/a> and myself, in the midst of which Turnbull <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/delimiter.com.au\/2012\/07\/24\/turnbull-accuses-abc-of-nbn-propaganda\/\">accused the ABC of &#8220;relentless propaganda&#8221;<\/a> in favour of the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nbnco.com.au\/\">National Broadband Network<\/a> (NBN), I offered Turnbull a number of opportunities to spell out the cost model of his proposed broadband solution.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Turnbull started the ball rolling with <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.malcolmturnbull.com.au\/blogs\/malcolms-blog\/why-the-coalitions-nbn-plan-is-superior-and-why-it-will-be-better-for-the-bush-too\/\">this piece<\/a>, outlining his position on the matter.<\/p>\n<p>Most prominently he stated that:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;We will complete the national broadband network and do so sooner, cheaper and more affordably for users.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course, stating that he <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/michaelwyres.com\/2012\/07\/turnbull-disingenuous-over-nbn-again\/\">will complete the NBN is disingenuous at best<\/a>, and at worst, completely untrue.<\/p>\n<p>Feeling it necessary to challenge the statement &#8211; (given that if whatever his FTTN solution costs PLUS the cost of a later upgrade to FTTH is NOT less than the current price of the NBN, his solution is NOT cheaper in the long term) &#8211; I started with <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mwyres\/status\/227227410062508032\">this<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;@TurnbullMalcolm How much for FTTN? How much to upgrade to FTTH? If total not less than NBN, yours is not cheaper or better! #auspol #nbn&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mwyres\/status\/227229714216013824\">And this<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;@TurnbullMalcolm @bradsprigg And you keep talking about price, yet you won&#8217;t give even a ballpark costing&#8230;&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mwyres\/status\/227230509216960512\">And this<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;@TurnbullMalcolm Tell us how much your plan costs and how much the later upgrade will cost&#8230;compare apples with apples mate&#8230; #auspol #nbn&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mwyres\/status\/227233927113359360\">And again here<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;@TurnbullMalcolm @ABCtech Only if you tell us how much FTTN will cost, and how much the subsequent upgrade will cost&#8230;&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mwyres\/status\/227235070480633857\">And again<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;@TurnbullMalcolm You are deliberately obfuscating&#8230;how much to deploy YOUR solution, and the later upgrade to FTTP? Stop avoiding it&#8230;&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mwyres\/status\/227235415424376834\">And again<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;@TurnbullMalcolm @ABCtech For as long as you avoided the question I have asked you many times, you are being evasive and disingenuous&#8230;&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mwyres\/status\/227235612611203072\">And yet again<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;@TurnbullMalcolm That&#8217;s not what I&#8217;m asking you&#8230;why do you twist and turn every time someone asks you for the price?&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There was absolutely no response to any of these tweets with respect to how much his alternate plan will cost.<\/p>\n<p>None.<\/p>\n<p>CitiGroup <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.zdnet.com\/citi-prices-turnbull-broadband-plan-at-17b-1339325988\/\">recently priced Turnbull&#8217;s plan<\/a> at approximately $17 billion &#8211; a number he disputed at the time.<\/p>\n<p>If he disputed it, he thinks it is wrong.  If he thinks it is wrong, he must know &#8211; (at least in a ballpark kind of way) &#8211; what the cost will be, to know that Citigroup&#8217;s figure is wrong.  Leading to the possible conclusion that he either doesn&#8217;t know the cost, or doesn&#8217;t want to tell us the cost.<\/p>\n<p>Which means that the Coalition either hasn&#8217;t costed the policy <i>at all<\/i> or it costs more than they want us to know at this time.<\/p>\n<p>Whatever the cost for Turnbull&#8217;s FTTN plan, combined with the cost of a later upgrade to FTTH &#8211; if the <i>total<\/i> is not less than the current plan to be the NBN as it stands, his plan is neither cheaper OR technically superior.<\/p>\n<p>Until he comes clean, comparing his solution to the current solution is comparing apples and oranges.<\/p>\n<p>I gave Turnbull seven opportunities to answer the cost question yesterday.<\/p>\n<p>Why won&#8217;t he answer?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the midst of an online Twitter &#8220;discussion&#8221; yesterday between Malcolm Turnbull, the ABC&#8217;s Nick Ross and myself, in the midst of which Turnbull accused the ABC of &#8220;relentless propaganda&#8221; in favour of the National Broadband Network (NBN), I offered Turnbull a number of opportunities to spell out the cost model of his proposed broadband [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[100,368],"class_list":["post-5997","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-auspol","tag-nbn"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5997","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5997"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5997\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5997"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5997"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelwyres.com.au\/mwdc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5997"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}